tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.comments2014-07-23T13:23:30.746-04:00CCSSI MathematicsFive Trianglesnoreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-56622459920736453822014-06-12T19:33:33.649-04:002014-06-12T19:33:33.649-04:00I stumbled upon your site while trying to find the...I stumbled upon your site while trying to find the standard for circle graphs in the Common Core standards. I was unsuccessful, so I just googled it. I am amazed that this standard has just poofed from existence. This bothers me to some degree as a math teacher. I think students should learn all about all types of graphs, because that is one area that they will encounter after they leave the classroom. I actually saved a pile of Times Magazines with amazing graphs in them over the years to use in my classroom. Now to see that those magazines can't be used?!?! Wow...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-40211137028369583332014-05-05T09:21:47.304-04:002014-05-05T09:21:47.304-04:00Hi, sorry to be off topic, but I don't know an...Hi, sorry to be off topic, but I don't know any other way of getting in touch with you. I have following your other blog (Five Triangles) for some time, and really like some of the problems you put up there. I would like to talk to you about the possibility of publishing some of them on Illustrative Mathematics (with attribution, of course). Could you get in touch with me at william.mccallum@gmail.com?Bill McCallumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09647093331377576865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-72788177035019372082014-04-22T19:02:38.372-04:002014-04-22T19:02:38.372-04:00I hate these tests their just so stressful its jus...I hate these tests their just so stressful its just a waste of time with these tests even my teacher is stressed outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-89556730309606565762014-04-07T17:38:26.356-04:002014-04-07T17:38:26.356-04:00They're asking the little pre-kindergarteners ...They're asking the little pre-kindergarteners to explain their thinking in words, they cant even write their names!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-1461821397040491052014-04-07T17:36:50.614-04:002014-04-07T17:36:50.614-04:00I am a student taking these tests. There's so ...I am a student taking these tests. There's so much stress on me and school-mates during this time of year just because of these tests. It's difficult and honestly... stupid. I believe that the state should just use the normal "old-fashioned" teaching. The type of educational system my parents received at my age. Even with english, it saddens me when I see people at my age or older than me who can't spell. When our school was taking the test I saw a page of another student who had spelled it "hapend". But anyway, the tests are ridiculously hard and should be saved for high school where it is traditionally taught. The math just puts so much stress on everyone, including myself I'm afraid of not being promoted. If only the state could just look inside the average N.Y classroom...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-21320510552515269942014-03-19T22:17:20.888-04:002014-03-19T22:17:20.888-04:00Thank you for the great detail. I so appreciate th...Thank you for the great detail. I so appreciate this for future discussions with my children's principal, administrators, and teachers.I am a parent and not an educator. You did a fine job explaining in great detail your objections to each problem that was easy to understand for those that do not have great math minds. Thank you for your work. How do I get on your e-mail list?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-38629967494604659282014-03-14T06:57:47.552-04:002014-03-14T06:57:47.552-04:00I believe this way of thinking will greatly increa...I believe this way of thinking will greatly increase the math ability of our youth. Sorry. We have an epic disaster on our hands now, perhaps caused by people who don't really "get" math designing things. Trained as an engineer, I can tell you this will help kids actually understand how things work, instead of the memorization we all grew up with. I believe people don't like this because they don't like math. I am not an educator, but a business owner, saddened by the lack of ability to understand how to use numbers in the people I employ. It allows them to make financial mistakes, etc., and is a real life problem. If you are not good at manipulating numbers and math concepts, please don't chime in about how this is not good; it's not helpful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-65903513725639578122014-03-13T21:01:21.439-04:002014-03-13T21:01:21.439-04:00I'm so glad I went to school in the 50s and 60...I'm so glad I went to school in the 50s and 60s this has my head hurting ...God help these kidsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-49517533587748588692014-02-19T11:10:22.729-05:002014-02-19T11:10:22.729-05:00In grade 3, part C, the interactive version has th...In grade 3, part C, the interactive version has the students use a ? rather than <em>R</em>. But the item asks for a multiplication equation that Andy <em>could</em> have written using ? for the # of rows. From that instruction, this is acceptable: ? x 1 = ? And so is <em>y</em> x ? = 56 <br />I doubt that is what the item writers want, but that is in the range of what they asked for.C.L. Ballhttp://skepticismiscertain.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-13907574756872114562014-01-31T17:44:24.466-05:002014-01-31T17:44:24.466-05:00I've been teaching my third grade son about fr...I've been teaching my third grade son about fractions recently.<br /><br />And I guess I'm just a big ol' dummy because I showed him that a whole number such as 3 could be represented as 3/1 and that he could multiply any fraction by 1 and get the same fraction with a different denominator multiplying by 1 , where 1=n/n.<br /><br />Of course, he speaks Mandarin, but I've been teaching him in English, so maybe I'll switch to fenzi and fenmu to see if it helps.<br /><br />But so far he seems to understand. All it takes is some practice.<br /><br />Seriously, we set the bar way too low for our kids. <br /><br />BTW, he's already scoring at a 5th grade level on his math tests, so maybe I'm doing something right after all...<br /><br />Gawd knows the crap they're teaching him in the school is a bunch of worthless, wordy BS.<br /><br />Giving the kids examples, diagrams, pictures, etc. and practice help a lot. <br /><br />All the fancy words just get in the way.<br /><br />I throw something at him and if it sticks, great, if not, then we try again later.<br /><br />3rd grade "progression" be damned.Shamashhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-34598921795479174502014-01-27T00:12:56.143-05:002014-01-27T00:12:56.143-05:00I would not use the term "precise" in co...I would not use the term "precise" in context of the math standard.<br /><br />Precise:<br />marked by exactness and accuracy of expression or detail.<br /><br />synonyms: exact, accurate, correct, specific, detailed, explicit, unambiguous, definite <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-72530775822346464912014-01-14T21:17:52.637-05:002014-01-14T21:17:52.637-05:00I found a counterargument to every one of the auth...I found a counterargument to every one of the author's complaints here with a 2 minute perusal of the actual CC standards. The much-ballyhooed first question says "as a fraction of the whole" which implies a scale of 0 to 1. The whole point of a graphical representation with equal scales is to be able to eyeball data and estimate. Subtracting 2 1/3 from 7 is the same as subtracting from both sides -- and one can answer that question WITHOUT actually doing any equation solving as the incorrect answer involves subtracting something outside the parenthesis from something inside the parentheses when, even if using something like PEMDAS, you know you can't do. Students are introduced to the cartesian plane as "distance" and "direction" from the origin in 4th grade, so the negative axis should not confuse. Whether the student does 1/3 x 108 or 108 x 1/3 doesn't matter for this question so it is CC appropriate, etc. etc. etc. Brian Boughtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05710559212858722496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-72903177950153971662013-11-19T12:02:26.734-05:002013-11-19T12:02:26.734-05:00Why didn't Gates just give all schools in the ...Why didn't Gates just give all schools in the US new computers for every student in every classroom and the infrastructure to actually use them? Easy, clean, needed. done.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-48063594023425712402013-11-14T21:09:05.542-05:002013-11-14T21:09:05.542-05:00The part I love is that PARCC expects students to ...The part I love is that PARCC expects students to type explanations, when most third graders (for example) have had no formal keyboarding training. How's that gonna work?? How are schools going to be expected to administer PARCC exams to various grade levels, when most have one computer lab...that's supposed to be available to students for learning activities. How long will the labs be unavailable due to testing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-89752685083063079612013-11-14T05:35:52.607-05:002013-11-14T05:35:52.607-05:00The two number lines in the 3rd grade item are mea...The two number lines in the 3rd grade item are meant to uncover a typical misconception, that 3/2 is somewhere around 3 and 2 and 5/6 is between 5 and 6. The presentation almost seems to lead students into this typical error and to question their own understanding. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-40728236900263386782013-11-12T22:50:47.351-05:002013-11-12T22:50:47.351-05:00Oops, yeah.Oops, yeah.CCSSI Mathematicshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12318317536740240935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-71900312647352900682013-11-12T22:45:51.284-05:002013-11-12T22:45:51.284-05:00"The problem never delves into the true high ..."The problem never delves into the true high school caliber mathematics; that is, if a student actually forms the equation 1–x=(0.11/x²) and solves it, there’s a quadratic involved, which explains the two solutions for x."<br /><br />It's uglier than that. If you form the equation, it isn't quadratic. It's cubic, meaning that there ought to be three solutions. The third, of course, is negative, thus falling outside of the specified domain and outside of the graph.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-9814565664991341172013-11-12T13:24:10.840-05:002013-11-12T13:24:10.840-05:00The item for 3rd grade on the PARCC website has ch...The item for 3rd grade on the PARCC website has changed cards to tiles in Part A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-83515427298989425402013-11-07T19:00:28.149-05:002013-11-07T19:00:28.149-05:00Forgot to comment on the article in the midst of m...Forgot to comment on the article in the midst of my rant -great analysis & opinion. Obviously we're not worried about a few kinks in a new curriculum, it's a systematic deficiency. danimalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08406056081712658005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-40997532204270134182013-11-07T18:57:28.475-05:002013-11-07T18:57:28.475-05:00Can't believe this is how our nation seeks to ...Can't believe this is how our nation seeks to catch up to those blazing ahead... memorizing a bunch of worthless factoids. Sadder yet, will be three or four decades down the road when their brain degrades to mush, yet they will still reliably answer "What's the volume of a cone?" after they drilled it hours on end.<br /><br />Before I entered my (public) high school, some of the students were offered a group of accelerated courses which would allow students to finish Calculus 2 by 10th grade. That's how we need to catch up. Develop to student's potentials, whether it be mathematics, biology, robotics, literature, music, computer programming, or woodworking. <br /><br />Don't sell out for ridiculously worded tests that quiz only the bare minimum or skills (if you want to call rote memorization a skill). More ingenuity, innovation, and desire in the curriculum please. danimalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08406056081712658005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-10303154619379249852013-10-13T12:56:05.717-04:002013-10-13T12:56:05.717-04:00Learning this was so much simpler and easier in th...Learning this was so much simpler and easier in the old days.<br /><br />No wonder states are jumping out of the PARCC and the SBAC consortia, like grease from the griddle.<br /><br />See also this post on PARCC:<br />PARCC Common Core test tricks and the secrecy of the tests<br /><a href="http://nyceye.blogspot.com/2013/09/parcc-common-core-test-tricks-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://nyceye.blogspot.com/2013/09/parcc-common-core-test-tricks-and.html</a>Geo Karohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11463970361326939857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-8749172322092607322013-09-25T15:09:06.839-04:002013-09-25T15:09:06.839-04:00Perhaps you have explained this elsewhere, but wha...Perhaps you have explained this elsewhere, but what were the qualifications of the people who came up with the CC math standards? One would imagine for an important job like that at least 2 qualifications would be needed: a degree or two in math (not math education) and many years of experience teaching math in classrooms (not just any grade, but the grades that match the standards that particular writer worked on). The more I examine the standards, the more it seems that the writers had no idea how children think and learn, and no understanding of how math topics relate to each other. I get the impression the writers were people with weak math skills who did not work directly with children ... possibly that group of people known as Math Educators who lack both real math training (meaning classes like algebra 2, calculus, abstract algebra, etc) and/or classroom experience? Could you please address this question because it might explain a lot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-50803874476264204852013-09-23T22:14:53.153-04:002013-09-23T22:14:53.153-04:00YES!!!! YES!!!! meghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341905095146201143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-54445316239041426492013-09-22T12:14:00.939-04:002013-09-22T12:14:00.939-04:00these have got to be the most idiotic questions I ...these have got to be the most idiotic questions I have ever seen - this is what they are teaching to? No wonder why these kids can't think or read. I feel bad for our children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6172532982347376290.post-26418030221136434352013-08-27T08:30:06.917-04:002013-08-27T08:30:06.917-04:00The teacher and the principal are telling the trut...The teacher and the principal are telling the truth. <br /><br />CCSS tells, superintendents, tells principals, tells teachers. No one is supposed to challenge the Common Core. Doing so is making waves and insubordination. <br /><br />Very disturbing how the comfort of packthink is ensuring groupthink. The fact that there is no *explicit* curriculum is a convenient gotcha game. The publishers claim that their hands are clean. If there is no formal curriculum, everyone else is free to blame the teacher for "developing a faulty curriculum." It is designed to trap the teacher. In competitive school systems, e.g., those in vibrant cities and tight employment markets, the loser in the numbers game is eliminated in the quest for the next victim to become a sucker and try his or her hand at trying to abide by the Core. --nyceye.blogspot.comGeo Karohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11463970361326939857noreply@blogger.com